Health Reform


In less than 90 seconds the new video highlights the upside-down priorities of Oregons Medicaid system. Lobbying groups have used the political process to push health reform for special-interest causes like substance abuse and weight loss treatment ahead of treatments for some kinds of cancer on the priority list.

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25 Responses to “Health Reform”

  1. funkyflights says:

    NOPE … just in health care because were talking about sick people NOT credit cards or gasoline… BIG difference…

  2. UTubekookdetector says:

    Credit cards are a problem too, we need to have a credit card public option.

    All your stories are subjective. States like NY, NJ and MA have extremely high premiums because of community rating and guaranteed-issue provisions.

    It’s obvious you’ve never ran a business or read the Constitution. We need a gasoline payment public option too, because gas is just way too expensive.

    The profit margin for the typical health insurance company is only 2.2 %, well below many other industries.

  3. funkyflights says:

    Were all spending to much on health are premiums ….. My brother 1,100 a month… My Uncle was spending 1,400 a month before he went on Medicare…. a good friend of mine in Florida spends 900 a month for her family…. It’s like a serious cost of living expense that’s killing our economy…. sickness should not be about profit that’s clear….

  4. UTubekookdetector says:

    FUNKY: Which families in which states are spending the most on health care premiums? What is the national avg.?

  5. postsimianproduct says:

    Dismissal is not concession, genius.

  6. monkeyluver3409 says:

    Let me clarify you on your statement. People don’t think that health care now is great. Many people (not only democrats) are unhappy with it, BUT it is better than what Obama is offering. They don’t tell us the full truth about what is going on. They just tell you what sounds good, but not the bad. Why does the rich have to pay for the poor? What is so “equal” about that? I do admit that our system could be better, but it isn’t as bad as what is being offered to us right now.

  7. UTubekookdetector says:

    Perhaps you can illustrate some specifics to us GENDUS?

  8. UTubekookdetector says:

    You need not continue to concede POST, the board have received your concession and we have accepted.

  9. UTubekookdetector says:

    You purposely misunderstand the analogy HADE, these community rating provisions in the helath care bill (along with guaranteed issue) will raise premiums.

    In addition, maybe you can explain to all of us why NY, MA and NJ have premiums much higher than the national average. The floor is yours.

  10. warlord784 says:

    Why not put every illnes on 1?

  11. funkyflights says:

    HAHA I know…. they’ve just never been sick or something…. because our system sucks BAD… Keeping this countries economy on hold with the amount of money families are spending on health care ….

  12. Gendus1 says:

    and to think, people think the system we have now is great…

  13. Bulhakas says:

    I live in a country where the government provides health care for all citizens and it’s nothing like this video describes. Open your eyes, americans. Don’t buy into the lies that insurance companies tell you in one last attempt to keep their monopoly on health access.

  14. makeitatriple says:

    Sounds like Oregon could use real universal health care.

  15. hadenufnow says:

    Anyone who makes an analogy between Auto Insurance & Health Insurance is “defective” insofar as the two are not in the same qualificaton status..
    A high risk automotive “drunk driver” offender gets removed from the insurance pool……
    ……A high risk HealthCare offender will NEVER be removed from the proposed senate HC Ins pool & those excessive costs will FEREVER be passed onto the now “POOR” remaining policyholders..
    Where’s the analogy??

  16. postsimianproduct says:

    This is the arena of ideas? Couldn’t tell from the padding on the walls. You enjoy your little echo chamber of ideas, Kook. I’ll go back to the halls of academia.

    Frankly, I don’t have the time for you. Five minutes of stupidity can take up to an hour to refute. Who has that kind of time on their hands? It’s best to let you wallow in it and spend my energy on people with brains. If you had an original thought in your head, I might give you the time of day. Haven’t seen one yet. Sorry.

  17. UTubekookdetector says:

    I do accept your concession Post, it’s obvious you cannot compete in the arena of ideas.

  18. hadenufnow says:

    Lie #1)) Go to youtube & search “pelosi go to jail” & see first video where oblamadon discusses how ridiculous a HC Mandate would be..Now look at him…
    Lie #2)) HC Ins is Just LIke Auto Ins—NOT–WIth Auto Ins, if you kill a pedestrian while drunk driving, your Insurance gets Pulled & Your License Revoked so the “INSURANCE POOL” will not be adversely affected by carrying this type offender..
    An Equally Hi Risk HC Offender is Indefinitely “IN YOUR INS POOL” & YOU OWN HIM..
    Ur Played..

  19. postsimianproduct says:

    Sorry, Chuck, I don’t bother with irrational people.

  20. UTubekookdetector says:

    Funky, your statement about the insurance company only paying for so many migraine pills makes my point.

    Helath Care should be like car insurance (does it pay for oil changes, brakes and headlights?) and pay for catastrophic care.

    Your statement makes my point: Out-of-pocket expenditures have dropped dramatically, it’s all third-party and gov’t payments.

  21. UTubekookdetector says:

    I see you’re sticking with your generalized clap-trap SIM.

  22. postsimianproduct says:

    funky, you can’t reason with ignorant people. I wouldn’t waste your time trying. UTubekook obviously has no clue what he’s talking about, his facts can be debunked with a simple google search, and he obviously has no clue how to make a reasoned argument. Don’t bother.

  23. mastior says:

    Give USA Citizens the same insurance THE crooked politicians have…
    Give the Crooked Politicians The same INS. they want to give US. LETS see how fast that pass’s.

  24. UTubekookdetector says:

    I already addressed the fallacies in that WHO report that listed us at 37th not 50th. A user named JohnDcord made the same assertion.

    So, you think the US health care system has gotten worse and at the same time the share of gov’t spending has massively increased (as well as mandates) and out-of-pocket spending has plummeted.

    I’d say you just refuted your own argument funky. Thanks for the bulletin board material though.

  25. funkyflights says:

    Amazing …. 4 family members on medicare… NEVER denied… 3 family members with private health insurance… PREMIUMS at 1,100 a month for my brother…1,400 a month for my Uncle… and 800 a month for a good friend of mine… WOW MAN…. and guess what ? My bro was just denied a procedure to help with his migraine headaches…AND they even limited the amount of headaches he could have in a month to 6 .. So the insurance company will only pay for 6 migraine pills a month…LOL.. great system

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